The Unsatisfied Women of Plenty of Fish

I've been searching around various different blogs lately trying to find different people's experiences in using PlentyofFish. Lately, I've been stumbling across some blog posts by some women who are out in the dating scene looking for potential male suitors. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of disappointment in the men on the site. And for the most part, these men are making a lot of the common mistakes that I've mentioned repeatedly on this very blog. Lets take a further look at two of these examples, shall we?

The Saving Diva

Saving Diva setup a Plenty of Fish profile and has commented that she receives many short lame messages containing such subject lines as Hi, cute pic, etc. as I've discussed in my post about sucky subject lines.

"One guy actually referred to me as "sweetpea." I haven't been responding to the majority of the messages, and I haven't received a decent message yet. Is this how all online dating sites are? If so, count me out! I need a little effort put into a message."

So far though, she has actually gone out on a number of dates with some guys she met on Plenty of Fish. However, it was apparent that not all went well; below are a few of the men's dating faux pas:
  • A couple of guys ended up lying about their height and were shorter than described in their profiles
  • One of these had questionable manners
  • One guy lied about his age
  • Another didn't look like his pictures
  • and a couple of them were quite boring
So, as we can see, the selection of decent guys on the site are few and far between, though her POF date#3 seemed to be a winner despite owning a Porshe Boxster S (apparently that's a turn-off?)

Romi from The Year of the Chick

Romi had an excursion on Plenty of Fish back in October which resulted in some humorous blog posts, but she basically concluded at the end that all she found were duds. Along with Dating Diva, she also received a lot of crappy email messages:

"I find that every time I enter the site and cruise around, there are five emails waiting after only a couple of minutes. What this means of course is sifting through a lot of crap, such as: ”Hey baby”—crap, “Can I see more pictures?”—crap, “I want to make you my everything”—crap, etc, etc, etc."

I don't think she ever went on a date with anyone, but it's clear in her making fun of the ridiculous messages she got why she wouldn't or couldn't find a decent date on the site.


So, it seems that these two women, who seem like great catches, just aren't getting the kind of quality game fish that you'd find on paid dating sites or in real life for that matter. This just goes to prove my theory that the competition between men on is quite weak despite the incredible large quantity.

This is both good for those of us able to display interesting attractive personalities through the site but also bad because it makes it more difficult to stick out amongst the rest of the mackerels.

Also, it appears that both Saving Diva and Romi experienced the same thing I had when I set up the fake profile and received tons and tons of garbage messages with ridiculous short sited subject lines like; hi, hey, hello, etc.

Another problem that is pretty apparent to me is the lying. Now, that is something I just don't understand. When you setup a Plenty of Fish profile you have to realize that the intent is to eventually meet other people in real life. And when your first impression to that person is of being a liar then you are off to a really bad start. Chances are that there isn't going to be a second date and you basically wasted your time.

All in all, I am beginning to understand the frustrations of women on plentyoffish. It's like the guys aren't even trying. Seriously, these guys really need to start reading my blog...


  1. Sounds good! I might try it on my new friend Dotty (see


  2. Anonymous10:35 PM

    In regards to the first girl (Diva), if she doesn't like the subject lines, thinks their too short of description; why doesn't she make an EFFORT herself and be the first to initiate an online conversation instead of waiting for the guy to make the 1st move. I thought women in today's society were supposed to be more independent. Guess not. She also makes these points about some of her dates:

    ----A couple of guys ended up lying about their height and were shorter than described in their profiles.

    ----One of these had questionable manners
    ----One guy lied about his age
    ----Another didn't look like his pictures
    and a couple of them were quite boring.

    Let me tell you something.... the same goes true for guys. I'd say that most women lie about their age and ESPECIALLY weight. On my dates I found some women boring and some that didn't look like their picture.

    I am beginning to understand the frustrations of men on plentyoffish. It's like the girls aren't even trying. Plus, most women lie heavily on their profiles.

  3. Anonymous5:02 AM

    I have been on the service nearly two years, and women are not any better. The Princess attitude abounds, and women are unlikely to even reply to a serious initial post.

    I think a lot of women are on merely for the ego-boost of having strangers compliment them.

    1. > women are unlikely to even reply to a serious initial post.

      THAT is the truth, NOT "male competition is dismal"

      Okcupid found in a study that men rate 50% of women as "above average" while women rate 15% of men as "above average".

      Let that sink in for a second.

      Sanity dictates both should bhave been 50%, and it demonstrates that women are not rating men sanely.

  4. Anonymous12:37 PM

    Both of the anonymous posts above are 100% fact. I was actually thinking the exact same things while reading the article, amazing.

  5. Anonymous11:16 PM

    Quote "This just goes to prove my theory that the competition between men on is quite weak despite the incredible large quantity."

    Most women on POF have their expectations ser a little high ... and they still expext those men to line up in their email queue to await approval.

    They are just simply expecting too much. Why would guys, at the level expected need to line up in their queue on the internet? Let's get real.

    Guys will always go where they can get the best deal with the least effort. POF isn't the place.

    If women actually knew how many pretty awesome guys sign up with POF and quickly delete their account within hours or a week or two ... they be shocked. It would certainly be a wakeup call in terms of womens expectations.

    The guys women are looking for are not there, because the women these guys are looking for are not there.

    NOW, you can't totally fault women on this. POF is designed to maximize ad revenue over effectiveness. That in in itself creates a lot of the problems. POF does not provide a way for women to distant themselves from men they are not interested in. The best strategy for women is too pick you they want and chase them. Unfortunately women on POF will only do that for the top enf guys ... most of which are lying to be that guy. Again it's an expectation problem.

    I view POF as a collection of women looking for bargains. Forget it, it's not going to happen, you'll never be able to keep the guy, at best you'll be sharing him.

    Women looking for bargins will only attract amateur players.

    Again, this is another issue with the way POF is setup. Without cross match or segmentation for the user base, women hust don't know how limiyed their requirements are. The are at least 20% of women on that site, if cross match was available, would just see a blank page when they hit their matches button.

  6. plentyoffish is hateful and sexist against MEN

    I get asked by women what I think about Plenty of Fish. Thinking is for the impaired, DEDUCTION is for people with normal IQ.

    First of all, as of now, Thursday, November 26, 2009, one's level of education is categorized under "smarts." Smarts are not defined by professional degrees. The smartest people I know are self-educated. An amateur built the Arc. A bunch of guys with diplomas built the Titanic. Even Moliere said "an educated fool is more foolish than an uneducated one."

    This does not mean that I am compatible with the pathetic modern day version of the "coffee shop lawyer" --- "the internet debater quack." And I already ran into one of those idiots, thanks to the site's profound calculations.

    Secondly, a man who does not know and knows it, is not foolish. A man who does not know and thinks that he knows --- is. You do not know anything about love. Inventing an algorithm to match people, when you do not know anything about love, leads to mismatching them.

    Thirdly since when are men not allowed to show nipples? Does your girlfriend make you pee sitting down? How dare they shame men for being men! As Baltasar Gracian said "nothing enhances a man as much as being a man." So it follows that the more you apologize for being male the more repulsive your are.

    Fourthly confident men do not try to intimidate people with warnings because you can only push an invertebrate. Spines do not fold like wings. You have to be an invertebrate yourself to project the same behavioral response on someone else.

    Put two and two together and we have a sycophant, a conniving moral coward. I do not put people down, I do not even put them in their place, but I am not responsible for lifting them up, so I will not pretend they are anywhere else than where they are. If they do not like where they are they can stick their head in the sand and hope nobody bites their butt.

    This was my profile mhtml:

  7. Anonymous11:14 PM

    I've found most of the women on plenty of fish to be shallow, self-centered, and looking for way more than they are willing to offer. Most of them are looking for a fantasy guy, even though they are far from a catch. They have inflated ego's and not much to offer most men they reject. What a waste of time they are........

  8. Anonymous4:07 PM

    women are shallow???? Men look for women half their age and expect them to be the ideal weight...have these men looked in the mirror??? man boobs, beer belly and no hair, unless it is in their ears??/ really? no women are not all shallow we just do not have to settle for mr pucke any more

    1. Anonymous7:11 PM

      So, here is a PERFECT example of the "shallowness" of this woman in her own words. Here she describes someone with no hair as a "Mr. Puke" Really? Balding is a natural occurance and one that science has yet to counter. Yet, I bet that if Mr. Balding shows up with hair implants or a weave she would be even more disgusted. What is one to conclude from this woman? Men that are BALD or BALDING are considered "PUKE" and should NOT consider dating unless he desires to be ridiculed by the likes of women such as the author of this comment to which I have replied to. YOU my dear Ms. by your own words have proved the concept that woman are at least as shallow as men can be. I hope you enjoy crow.

  9. Anonymous12:36 AM

    Seems like a lot of pent up hostility in some of these comments. I've been on PoF a few times and have had 4 dates. Only one of them was a dud, but maybe she thought the same thing. Two others resulted in me getting to know the women and although we aren't dating, we still keep in touch. I think it really is up to you putting the time into having a good profile that gives a sense of you are, and writing great emails that show you've actually read, and thought, about their profile. This goes for both men and women.

  10. No women are not all shallow we just do not have to settle for mr pucke any more.

  11. Funny blog post. As a dating coach, I'd like to give my 2 cents here about online dating...

    Most men don't or hardly ever receive any messages from women online.



    - Most men use an email subject like "hi", "hello", "hey" or something cheezy while women get dozens of those per day = your messages never gets read

    - Most men use lame pick up lines like "is heaven missing an angel", give "good" compliments like "you're hot!" or say "hi" in their messages too = your message is never really about her, about the actual woman you're talking to

    - Most men describe themselves like this: "I'm funny, handsome, ambitious, gentle, etc." but women don't want words, they want proof = 99% of the men doesn't use storytelling or proof

    Gosh... why would so many men suck at meeting women online?

    I think I know the answer, lol!

    To More Dating Success,

    Dennis Miedema
    Win With Women

    1. You're plugging for your product.

  12. Anonymous9:29 AM

    OK like seriously, you women are just full of it. What more do you want a guy to say on the subject line. He does not know you. At least read what they have to say first. So Hey, Hi or whatever on the subject line is fine, just read what he has to say. Also you females do send message and its the same but worst. Note only you women leave something like hi on the subject line, but you all leave like one sentence as a message. Pathetic!

    1. spot on and to those ladies who I would respect and potentially comfort Hi, deal with it grr lol single for life then

    2. You're correct. Every introduction message I have gotten from women was a one-liner like "hello, how are you?"

      And guess what?

      The one-liner he wroote you isn't ALL he wrote. He also wrote his profile, you know. You might go read that and carry the conversation on normally...

      If you won't even reply to a simple "hello", then why should a man bother writing anything more?

  13. Anonymous1:34 AM

    I agree, to all the women on pof, what the hell do you expect a guy to say!!! its only humun to say hi or hello or hey to someone you dont know is it not?!! what a load of bollocks! all the women or most are up there own arses just looking for a guy with a big wallet, simple as that!!!!!!! so fucking shallow!!!!!!! they fucking gotta be 7 foot tall look like fucking brad pitt and gotta be rich, if not, the message gets fuckin unread deleted!! pathetic stupid fucking women! grow up!

  14. Anonymous3:09 AM

    I've got messages from women saying "well if you're so great why are you here" implying that they didn't believe POF was for winners or anyone worth while. They had a hard time believing that a quality guy would actually take the time to use internet dating as an alternative to the bar scene or whatever. They think they can get a Porsch offering up a few thousand (or in some cases a few hundred) dollars. Well, bloody hell if it's gonna happen. They are clearly on that site because no one they meet in real life is good enough.

  15. Anonymous1:43 PM

    I've had a few flings off POF. Whatever. Some women are friendly, some aren't. Some just have bad taste that's all.

  16. I've been on plenty of fish for a while, changed my bio a lot, from being as honest as possible writing quite a few things about myself, to making it a list about me, to making it short and easy, and not too long of a read. No matter how I go about it, I really haven't had much luck. I mean take a look at my profile if you want, maybe you can give me a few pointer? =/

    I mean I don't plan on finding anyone serious right off the bat on a dating website. Usually it takes time and patience to find that one person. I guess plenty of fish is for folks who plan on finding someone instantly to get in a relationship with. I had a few women write to me, and I had a lot of women actually viewed me. Well main problem is I write to the ladies that I have interest in, and majority of the time I don't even get a response. The ones I do get a response where I do ask questions or comment something from their profile, they rarely ask me any kind of questions, it's usually me doing all asking (which is odd, but I know a friend who admits of doing it, and she admit she's guilty about doing that). When I do write and try to initiate a conversation where it doesn't involve oh hey baby, or you're cute, and so on and so on, I still don't get a response a lot of ime. I don't really understand to be honest. I'm not trying methods into tricking these ladies to talk to me, but I'm being myself and being honest as possible. Shoot I even have a tagged link of me to give them even a better idea of me, and even dinky videos. Sure there are women who has no interest in a guy like me, but sure there are a few out there who may be. Maybe they think I'm a total fake or something.. -_-

  17. Anonymous8:17 PM

    I was fooled by a POF guy recently...he said he an honest guy looking for a long-term relationship and wasn't into one night stands...we had two great conversations and he asked me never to cheat on him and if we had problems to promise we would talk it out. I agreed. We had drink when we met and hit it off. I went back to his place with know what happened from here. He told me he would call me...the next day he deleted all our messages and never spoke to me again. I felt like a disposed of piece of trash. I am an emotional mess...I am not the kind of person who does this and forgets about it. He is still out on POF and daily...I have a bachelor's degree and a professional position...I am struggling as to why I couldn't see this coming! I may never use on-line dating again!

    1. Anonymous12:43 AM

      Seriously? You don't get it? Let me guess - was this guy everything you ever wanted? Was he good looking, successful, etc? Have you considered that maybe he just takes advantage of women because they make themselves available to him? Try dating a guy that has to work for you and not the other way around.

    2. Anonymous1:39 AM

      I'm sorry I did that to you. I should have told you the truth, your pussy tasted like an old bait can and that is a deal breaker for me. Please get vaginal hygiene ASAP.

    3. Anonymous10:21 AM

      Exactly correct. My guess is, she is maybe a 5-7 out of 10, attractive and decent body. Not a supermodel by any stretch of the imagination, but do-able.
      He is the alpha, uber hot dude, nice car, home, etc. Has a great line of bullshit, that really hits the right ego stroke notes.

      She felt they both had the "great chemistry," that women think will translate to "soulmate or life partner." (it takes MORE than lust ladies)

      And it ended with her "dating up lottery ticket," turning out to be a total tool and player. My suggestion to all the women online. If 85% of you, don't want to be passed around by the 20% uber hot dudes? (more than a joint at a rock concert)
      The answer is simple. Stop making decisions based on height, 6 pack abs and paycheck. Expecially when YOU are uneducated, low income, average body type.(and probably 10yrs older than him) Your shallowness, insecurity and low self esteem. Will get you pumped and dumped, EVERYTIME!

    4. > I felt like a disposed of piece of trash.

      Glad to hear it.

      That's how almost every woman on POF has made me feel for the last 5 years.

  18. Anonymous12:27 PM

    What makes me laugh is that when you do finaly click with a women on this site, they always say, i want to get to know you better before we meet!!!!! WTF???

    After all you wouldnt meet someone in a bar and say, hi nice to meet you,but can we talk online to get to know each other!!!???

  19. Charles6:47 PM

    You know, if you don't like the quality of messages you're receiving, you can always message people yourself!

    The fact that women on there expect to be blown away by messages from men goes hand in hand with my experience that women on these sites are way too demanding.

    Oh, and

    "What makes me laugh is that when you do finaly click with a women on this site, they always say, i want to get to know you better before we meet!!!!! WTF???"

    When that happens, just move on. They obviously have no interest in meeting.

  20. Women in the UK on that site are shocking beyond belief and its obvious with their attitudes, they'll only attract obviously thugs and players. Which is them getting what they deserve when you look at it that way, especially as I've never EVER come across a women in the real world, who has unrealistic expectations like they should be worshipped and showered with money/gifts.

    As far as I am concerned, Plenty of fish is full of female cancer that society obviously has no use for and good luck to the thugs and players. You have women on there waiting for you.

  21. I really dont understand why girls wait msg from guys instead of sending a msg to them.whats wrong with making the 1st move?!?!?
    on the other hand girls expect us to send a unique msg...Even we send a msg it is missed out by girls because they get tons of creapy msg from guys who make the 1st move.
    I am a handsome guy and nice not a jerk.I have been told that not my idea:) i have a good excuse to be single i am new in canada but if you girls are single and local i really want to hear your excuse:)

    and the last thing: not only guys looking for one night stand althought it says LTR on their profiles also girls do the same thing. fist coffee second date is sex. and girls never call again! what happened your LTR intent and no one nightstand rule??at least have sex tiwice :)if u think guy wasnt good in the bed ask yourself what you did to have a good sex :D any effort?

    girls are as weird as guys on pof.

    1. > I really dont understand why girls wait msg from guys instead of sending a msg to them.

      They don't, that's a myth. Go create a fake profile with a reasonably attractive head-shot and complete junk for the "about me", mispellings and all.

      You will find, that from a single good-looking headshot, you'll get 10 or so INcoming e-mails a day from beautiful women, some of the very same ones which ignored your well-thought honest introduction messages!

      The fake profile I made said "i likes to be nice to people. I am a vry nice gy." And the interests read "being nice" -- and a single head-shot of a male model. THAT'S ALL.

      On top of that, if I make my main picture (on my real account) a cropped thumbnail of my chest (clothed!) I get around 5-10 views PER HOUR, but absolutely zero incoming messages.

      My "About Me" is entirely reasonable.

  22. Anonymous4:17 PM

    He ladies, if a guy says "Hi, what's up?" he obviously only expects a one-liner back. Just like an exchange of smiles in bar. I can't believe you don't get that. He is just testing the waters to see if it is worth the effort to write a mail.

    1. Anonymous8:38 PM

      Couldn't put it better my self... I totally agree with you you're not exactly going to just walk up to someone in a bar and say..''Hey, my name's this and that and I work in this place or that place ..oh and by the way I'm 24..'' it's freaky!

    2. That's right. If a woman won't even respond to "Hello", then she is not worth any more effort.

      If she reacts badly, then she is displaying pathology.

  23. Anonymous12:26 AM

    Check out this site by a guy who had enough of PoF. He attracted some of the best commentary I have ever read. If you ever feel upset about online dating, just read a few posts from this and you feel better, promised.

    1. Yes, I did feel better but I still don't have a date.

      The responsibility to change this state of affairs currently rests on women in general.

      Men cannot fix it, they didn't break it.

  24. Anonymous12:13 PM

    Im from Australia and the funny thing is that the women on pof in aus seem to match exactly what you guys have said, they are unrealistic and living in a fantasy world. Only problem is, they do not have the physical appearance that warrants this kind of attitude or expectations. Girls, take a long look in the mirror, if you are over weight or unattractive I am terribly sorry to inform you that you may have to settle for someone who is fat and bold or risk spending the rest of your lives alone.

  25. Anonymous10:36 PM

    Ya the whole message thing on these sites has become a joke. Guys are expected to write a novel based on hopefully 1 paragraph in a girls profile?

    Usually the profile will say something like,
    "I'm a down to earth girl, and love my family, msg me if you're interested"

    I see similar profiles to this all the time, what can a guy really come up with for a first contact message besides hello?

    But it doesn't even matter since pretty much all the girls on these sites don't write back.

    Like others have said, girls have set their expectations way to high, or they just love the attention.

  26. I am a 52 yr. Old female who is 5'4..148 lbs..not obese, not too skinny.I do honestly prefer taller. Guys and that the ones I e mail..but I don't get taller. Guys get turned off at shorter women..because I'm not ugly by no means..I'm just wondering......Thank You

    1. Anonymous10:37 AM

      Taller guys are in high demand. And because their options are greater. I suspect, weed you out because of your weight. Maybe time to consider lowering your height requirement demands?
      If you require 6ft minnimum and reject a guy for being 5' 10" (HELLO, you are 5' 4") Try this simple test. Hold you thumb and forefinger up and measure 2" or even just 1". Thats the difference for a man to be "worthy of dating you."
      If you are using this criteria, as a good, honest and quality mans "worthiness "barometer?" It is an excercise and system, fundamentally flawed and doomed for failure. (yes, everytime) Not to mention, being the very APEX of shallowness. (rejecting for 1"?)

  27. Anonymous7:40 AM

    99% of women on dating sites are damaged goods that no guy in the real world wants or would put up with, if you think I'm lying then take a good look around any dating site. Its the same shit over and over again "I'm looking for a nice guy" but "I want a guy who doesn't really exist outside of Disney film".

    Guys are no angels and act like arseholes but what do women expect when they act like that.

  28. Well,.. ive come accross a few men who asled for my phone #.. and never called, also 2 men gave me their phone #.. i initiated a call.. and they completely ignored it...whats with that.. why would you ask or give a phone # if you didnt expect a call...

  29. Anonymous2:52 PM

    It doesn't seem that the people on these sites are really looking for friends first. (if that's what it takes to start a relationship.) The guys want to know if they can get laid, and the women want someone to financially support them.

    That's it, a revolving door of people with grocery lists and people who act like little kids in a candy store. It takes time to get to know someone even after you meet. The first time they see or hear about something they don't like, ..Poof! Gone. They're back on line. Big waste of time in my opinion. Nothing of quality here.

  30. Anonymous2:29 PM

    I am a great woman with no big hang ups and completely self sufficent so I am not looking for someone to support me. Without tooting my own horn I have been told many times I am attractive.

    I agree with the comment men are only looking to be laid on POF they are definitely not interested in meeting a nice woman who they can have a friendship with first and then see where it goes. Absolutely a candy store for them. It quite honestly is disgusting. The site should be called 'Plenty of Pigs'

    No quality men or very few if there is...
    So now I am just toying with them as I am sure many woman have decided to do with the Pigs on there.

    1. Anonymous10:35 PM

      kudos....cept I can't even be bothered "toying with them"....I've raised 4 boys lol disappointing how tainted some people can get from past experiences

      Hang in there ladies there has to be a few REAL MEN ....we're here :)

    2. Anonymous7:20 PM

      So what do you say about the women that DO have sex with the men they meet on POF for the first and possibly ONLY time? It's one thing to be a pig, its another to lay with them. If the man shows any sexual interest is he considered a "PIG"? Or, whould you "blow him of" if he doesn't make a move and say he didn't seem interested and even might be gay. Woman make up your mind!

    3. > So now I am just toying with them

      You do not deserve to be loved; you're malicious.

  31. Anonymous5:26 AM

    Nice to see others share my frustration. I'm no Calvin Klein underwear model, but I am handsome and am in great shape (I'm actually running a marathon next month) actually write meaningful messages, and use witty titles or atleast a title that indicates I have read her profile, but still get rewarded with jack squat.

    I've become completely convinced that the vast majority of women on POF are damaged goods that are only there to repair their egos by seeing how many guys will message them and then completely ignoring them. Like they're something special! If they're so great why do they need a website to meet guys?

    I'm also sick of the mindgames they play, such as showcasing 7 or 8 pictures of their tits, but then going on to say they hate being seen as sex objects.

  32. Anonymous8:45 PM

    When I meet a guy on POF, he seems to writing to a bunch of ladies at the same time. He gets me confused with people. One guy I dated for 4 months couldn't stop writing people on POF. It was like a oontest to see how many ladies would write to him. I'd like to meet a guy who wants to date one person at a time.

    1. > I'd like to meet a guy who wants to date one person at a time.

      No, you would call that guy an "obsessive creeper douche bag" and you would ruin his self esteem for years.

  33. Oh please, that woman's Tag (name) says it ALL. This has Princess Complex written all over it. How many times have you seen women describe themselves as such. Deflate your over inflated ego and come back down off of your pedestal. Just because you say so doesn't make it true. And who is she to determine who is "boring"? Perhaps he couldn't converse with you on who was winning on American Idol or some other meaningless dribble

    1. > Deflate your over inflated ego and come back down off of your pedestal.

      They can't. That's just it. They. Can. Not.

      It's not gonna get better.

  34. Anonymous12:31 AM

    I gotta tell you after spending some time on POF I can see why the women there are single. In my experience most of them are hypercritical, overly judgmental and have ridiculously high standards. Though I am no Brad Pitt, I am not a bad looking guy. I own a successful business and make a good living and I am a man of impeccable character. In short, I am everything every woman on that site says she is looking for, plus I'm single with no kids and I live on a lake. And yet the only responses I get are from women over 200lbs. And by the way all my messages are well planned, respectful and show that I took an interest in what she said in her profile. I assure you, nothing a man does or does not do makes a difference.

    Also, I find that nearly all of them lie about their age by a good 10-20 years. Most of the fat ones post pictures that intentionally hide their weight. I'm sorry but if you are morbidly obese you ought to be up front about it and save both parties a lot of awkwardness. A good number of the women are insulting and trash guys in their profile. And many say things like if you are not at least 6'2" don't even bother. And then they wonder why guys exaggerate their height by an inch or two. Really, I find it odd that so many women complain about meeting all these creeps and complain about no quality men but when they do come across a good man they just ignore or ridicule him.

    No, what I believe is not that there is a shortage of good men on the site. I believe it is that most of the women only respond to the best looking, richest men and those super good looking rich men see these women as the shallow, superficial liars that they are. All those men are doing is treating the women the way they think the women deserve to be treated. So in the end, the women get exactly the man they choose.

    If a woman really wants a good man and all the other things they claim such as honesty and integrity there are undoubtedly thousands of those men on POF or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe if the women would consider giving a guy who isn't over 6' tall or who isn't a lawyer a chance, they might actually meet a great guy. I'm also sure the ones that must have Prince Charming will always wind up with guys who cheat on them and treat them the way they in fact deserve to be treated.

    1. > I assure you, nothing a man does or does not do makes a difference.

      This revelation would help a lot of people.

  35. Anonymous10:19 PM

    I love it when the women complain about the guys being shorter than they claimed, yet those women most likely are showing up for a date in 3 inch heels or even platforms. As an average height guy, I am getting pretty tired of the attitude of women standing on stilts acting like I am a midget. I think all average height and below men should start wearing "tall mens" shoes.

  36. Anonymous11:51 PM

    I've met a few girls from POF
    one was at least twice the size of her pics
    one had a bipolar disorder
    ones face pic looked nothing like her
    one was a drug addict

    The one I did think was alright seemed a little off still we went on 2 dates, a good friend of mine just so happened to be her neighbor and told me about her hooking up with 8 guys in one day!

  37. Anonymous6:56 PM

    One ought to consider whether it's the people at fault or the system they have to use. Are people really capable of rationally judging the contents of profiles or are they their own worst enemies?

    1. It's the people. Your 'dichotomy' is really the same side of the same coin.

  38. This is a real shame. I actually try to write something interesting to someone that I am interested in. I do understand that the ratio of guys to girls on POF is ridiculously uneven and that any (decently cute) girl will get bombarded with messages within the first few days of signing up. But I have my own system of massaging a girl. I try to open with a bang, normally trying to relate to them by something they wrote or are interested in while throwing in a few TRUE compliments. Say something about any similarities we have and close with a question or two so she actually has something to reply to. Yes, it may be a system but it's far from fake. I make each message personal for the girl I am messaging, always tell the truth, and NEVER copy and paste. I would like to think the girl I end up with is smart enough to tell if it's a pasted paragraph with absolutely zero content behind it.

  39. Anonymous11:19 AM

    I have to laugh at ALL these posts. Seriously? IT'S FREE! What's the saying.... Oh... "you get what you pay for!" Although I will admit that I have been a paying member on this site and plenty others and both men and women still get all that was said in all the above posts.

    It's a crap shoot just like it is if you were to meet someone the old fashioned way but with thousands of more people. You have to weed out all the "hell no" to those that are "maybe" and then weed out more to get to the "possibly" and go from there.

    I will have to agree with someone up there where as you get a notice stating that someone is interested in you, so YOU initiate the email only for them to not answer. On that one I would say, "WTF?"!!!!!

    1. Happens all the time. You are excusing inexcusable behaviour, and the canne phrase "you get what you pay for" is not applicable or valid.


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